Why making friends is so hard — but worth the investment
Making friends as an adult is like trying to solve a puzzle with missing pieces. We've all been there—scrolling through social media, wondering how everyone else seems to have a perfect friend group while we're sitting at home knitting. 🧶
In this episode, we're diving deep into the art of building meaningful connections, breaking down the emotional barriers, and uncovering the surprising ways friendships can impact your financial and personal growth.
From mindset shifts to practical strategies, we're sharing our own messy, beautiful journey of finding community (though it’s always a work in progress) and why it's worth every initial coffee meetup and uncomfortable first chat.
🎧Listen in to hear:
[00:02:00] Emily and Cassidy's personal stories of friendship struggles
[00:14:00] Why making friends as an adult is so difficult
[00:16:00] The financial benefits of strong friendships
[00:19:00] When it's worth investing money in community
[00:22:00] Practical steps to build genuine friendships
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Transcript
Emily Batdorf: Are you drowning in money questions but too embarrassed to ask? Tired of scrolling endlessly through conflicting financial advice that leaves you more confused than when you started? Welcome to the Finance Girlies podcast, your cozy corner for all things finance. I'm your host Emily.
Cassidy Horton: And I'm your host Cassidy. We're both finance writers for brands like Forbes Advisor, USA Today Blueprint, and Yahoo Finance. Throughout our careers and personal lives, we have come to one realization. When we keep our money worries to ourselves, we end up feeling alone. That's why each episode, we tackle those burning questions you've been afraid to ask with no judgment, no jargon, just real talk about real money. Ready to finally get answers? Let's dive in.
Emily Batdorf: Hello and welcome back to another episode of the finance girlies today we're talking about making friends as an adult and how it impacts your finances and this episode was inspired by a facebook post in a finance oriented community about the struggle of building community as an adult. And something this post got it that we thought was interesting and wanted to dig into was that even when you put in the effort, sometimes people don't reciprocate. Making friends as an adult feels way harder than it should be, and we've both had our own struggles with this.
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Cassidy Horton: But we have also found that there is a direct link between community and your financial success, whether it's networking, emotional support, or just having people around you who push you toward your goals. This episode is not just going to be about some put yourself out there advice, because honestly, a lot of times it's way easier said than done.
Emily Batdorf: Yeah, and instead, this episode will be about the overlooked connection between building meaningful adult friendships and financial well-being, why forming communities as adults is challenging, how our social circles directly impact our financial mindsets and opportunities, and when investing money in community building activities provides genuine returns. So in this episode, we hope to give you practical strategies for cultivating supportive friendships that contribute to both personal happiness and financial success, while acknowledging the very real emotional barriers that make just putting yourself out there hard to do. But before we begin,
Cassidy Horton: Emily and I are going to share our own stories of how we've made friends over the years, just our little personal experiences with community. So Emily, do you want to share your experience first?
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Emily Batdorf: Sure. So I feel like I was really lucky and had great communities as a kid, mostly through school and sports, and I also just had a lot of friends who lived in my neighborhood growing up. And it felt kind of effortless, I think, as it often does for kids. I was that weird kid who genuinely loved high school because of the friends and community that I had there, but then when i went to college things were dramatically different i went to a big university and even though a lot of people from my high school went there it just felt so different everyone kind of goes their own way and none of my like best closest friends who i spent most of my time with were there. I also lived in a residential community. Really, my thought process for doing so was to get the best dorm, which was a perk, but I totally didn't mesh with that community and didn't end up really finding any friends there. So all in all, the first year of college was rough. I thought I'd chosen the wrong school because it was so big and I just was feeling lonely. But after my freshman year, I did something scary, but something that also sounded fun and interesting, and that was signing up for a field geology class in the Rocky Mountains.
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And for context, I went to school in the Midwest. So we drove four little minivans across the country to go live in this field camp for a month and on this trip I met my two best friends I'd have for the rest of college one of which is like still my best friend and we were in each other's weddings and talk all the time and so that changed the course of college and life. And then after college, I did a similar thing where I did something scary and fun and I moved out west. And again, I found so many friends really easily. I was living in a small town, a very like-minded outdoorsy community, and I worked at a nonprofit with a lot of people my age. So up until that point, aside from like that first year in college, things had felt pretty easy. But then right around the time the pandemic began, my husband and I moved across the country back to my home state, but we moved to a new town where we didn't know a single person.
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And all of those insecurities from that first year in college came back. Luckily this time I had my husband, but I still definitely felt the need for friends and community where I lived and I was lacking that. So it was really hard and it's definitely not something I've totally figured out. We've been here for about four years now, but slowly and surely I've tried to get involved in things that sound fun and aligned with my interests, which initially was really hard during the pandemic because I felt like I couldn't spend money on things like classes and clubs and events. But starting my business was actually a big opportunity and kind of a success story for me finding friends at this phase of my life. It hasn't led to any local friends, but it has led to amazing friendships with people across the country. Locally, I've had a bit of a harder time, but I'm doing what I can. I've joined classes, a book club, a running group, a yoga studio, and I'm getting to the point where I see people around town from these different activities and we recognize each other in chat and have good conversations. So it's slowly, slowly happening.
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But I will be the first one to admit that making friends as an adult is so hard. And I feel like I wasn't prepared for it. So that's kind of my story of my journey with friendship. Cassidy, let's hear yours.
Cassidy Horton: Okay. I feel like you and I have some similar threads in our stories. I grew up in a very, very small town and attended a very small school. My middle school and high school were in the same building. That's how small that we were. And I graduated with like 103 people and it was the biggest graduating class my school had ever seen. And I think I just took that for granted like if you would have asked high school me if i was really good at making friends i would have been like oh my gosh totally yes and i think i felt like that because i grew up in a town where everyone knew everyone i had built-in communities through clubs at school through school in general through church and i felt like i had friends who i absolutely adored with my whole heart. And I honestly thought that I was good at making friends because anytime we would get a new student at school, we were such a small school in general, I felt like I went out of my way to try to make sure that they felt like welcome and included. And so for all of those reasons, I was like, I am so good at making friends.
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But then I got to college, similar to you. Went to a big university. I did not know a single soul except my then boyfriend. And I realized so quickly just how bad I was at opening up to complete strangers and making friends with people who knew absolutely nothing about me. I realized in that moment I had never started at ground zero and I did not know what I was in for. So college was a little bit of a struggle. Throughout my time there, I did end up making a few friends, but it's not like those stories that you hear where you leave college with dozens and dozens of friends and like they're all in your weddings and you meet up and you have these gigantic text threads. I probably walked away from college with like four or five friends and I went to undergrad and grad school there. So yeah, it's just, it was an interesting time. I feel like I learned a lot about myself. And then a few years after college, my husband and I did move cross country, similar to you, to a city where we knew absolutely no one.
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We both worked from home too. So there was no way to like meet friends organically, how you imagine that you do as an adult. So those years were honestly a struggle we moved there at the beginning of 2019 and in my head i was like i'm gonna give myself a year to like settle in and then i'll get really serious about making friends and then the pandemic happened and that did that did not happen at all like we were even more in a bubble and there were fewer opportunities to make friends but then i remember like the end of 2021 i was making all of my new year's resolutions for 2022. And I was like, I was kind of fed up with myself and just fed up with the situation of still feeling like I really wanted to have friends and didn't have any. So I was like, we are going to get serious about this. So I made a lot of New Year's resolutions that year about making friends. And by this point, I had made a few observations about myself. And I knew that I was kind of part of the problem that I really struggled with like opening up to people that I didn't know.
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So much so that as a funny side story, there have been two times in my adult life. One was my freshman year of college and one was probably three years ago when I had two friends sit me down and be like, I have noticed that you know so much about me and our friendship, but I feel like I don't know anything about you and our friendship. And like, I'm just curious as to why that is. And both of those times have been a wake up call for me to like let's work on yourself and let's figure out why you struggle so hard to like open up to people. So yeah, some of those things were on my list. So my new year's resolutions for the year ended up being like, go to therapy, like try to figure out, why it's harder for you to make friends and like start unpacking some of your beliefs and just get more curious about yourself another one was to read some books on how to make friends as an adult and then another one was to like find more in-person friends and then also just to practice having deep and raw conversations with people and showing up as my full self and that last one is verbatim taken from my new year's resolution i was gonna ask
Cassidy Horton: That is verbatim exactly what I wrote.
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So I felt like I spent 2022 doing a lot of like internal work on how I could show up as like a fuller person, how I could put myself in positions to make more friends. And I think that was really pivotal to my journey. And I just, I had a lot to learn and a lot of practice to put in first, but I actually in July of that year. So in July of 2022, this is a year that I credit my adult friendship, little seeds beginning to grow, so to speak. Because that is the year I attended one of my first ever business trips by myself. And this is a business trip where I met Emily for the first time in real life. And I also met some of the people that I still consider my closest friends to this day. And I remember feeling so nervous about this trip because I was like, You have been doing all of this internal work. Like, this is your opportunity to practice, quote unquote, showing up as your fullest self and having more deep and raw conversations with people. So I had read a few books.
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One of the books that we have linked in the show notes, actually, is We Should Get Together by Kat Villas. And then I had also read an article by Dr. Marissa G. Franco. It's like a step-by-step guide on how to make friends as an adult. And I remember I kept that article specifically, like pulled up on my phone while I was at this business retreat. And I like read it on the plane on the way to the business retreat. And I read it once I was there. Like anytime I felt a little bit nervous about like, oh, crap, I feel out of my depth and I don't know what to do. I would just read that article. But one of the things that she mentions in this article, it's one of my favorite tips, is to assume that people like you. And this may seem like a small tip, but I think it was a major mindset shift for me because in hindsight, I think one of the reasons why I had so many one-sided friendships was because I was like so afraid of opening up to people.
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I think deep down I thought that if I did open up I would say something to like make that person think I was weird or to push them away or to make them change their mind about me in some way so I was like I'll just stay really curious about who they are and I'll just stay quiet about my own life and so it took working through all of that but that was like a really pivotal thing too was just realizing like let's just assume that people like you. Like in this new interaction, assume that someone already likes you and then see what happens. And then another thing that was kind of a mindset shift for me, I have heard this several places, but most recently I heard it in a Mel Robbins podcast episode titled Why Making Friends as an Adult Feels Impossible and What to Do About It, and we've linked that episode in the show notes as well but in the episode she quotes this mit study that talks about how many hours it takes to make a friend and the study found that it takes roughly 50 hours together to move from an acquaintance to a casual friend and it takes 90 hours of hanging out to become like a simple friend and then it takes over 200 hours to consider someone a close friend.
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And this study also, like a lot of people may hear that and think, oh my God, I'm doomed. There's no way I can spend that much time with another person. But for me, it was kind of this light bulb moment. And I found it really comforting because I think sometimes like you can meet someone who seems really cool and you hang out two or three times and you're like, this still feels awkward. This still feels like a lot of work. Like, I don't really know what I'm doing but really there there's nothing wrong with that that's totally normal like you just have to put in the hours to get closer to someone and I've seen this play out in my own friendships since 2022 in hindsight so for example Emily and I will go on these business retreats and I've done this with other friends too that I've met through copywriting where I feel like our friendships are forged in this pressure cooker almost because we are living life together for like three, four, five days sometimes where we're, sometimes we're sharing a room.
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Emily and I just shared a room together in January. You're eating together. You're talking about your businesses together. You're opening up about your personal lives together. You're doing activities together. Like you're doing all of this stuff together. And I think that's really what makes the difference is because like there has to be a moment in your friendships where you're you move beyond just coffee meetups, you know, because really all you're doing in a coffee meetup is you're catching up on each other's lives, maybe learning a little bit about their interests, but you're not really diving into those interests together or living your life together. Of course, that's a natural part of it, right? Like you're not just going to go do all of this stuff with a complete stranger in most situations, but there like has to be a moment where you move past like just meeting up for a meal or coffee I think if you truly want like a deep deep friendship and those are personally the types of friendships that I want in my life moving forward and they're the types of friendships that I have developed with a few people since 2022 but yeah they require some work but i will say it's been a journey i'm still struggling even though i feel like i found a lot of friends through like business trips and copywriting and stuff i'm still similar to you struggling to like find my local community and that's starting to happen now like i've joined like a workout class where i've made some friends and silent book clubs and some other like get together groups where we go and do activities together and that has started to make a difference, but it definitely requires some work.
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Emily Batdorf: For sure. So between our two stories, I think there are a few common themes as to why making friends as an adult is so hard, and we've boiled them down to four different reasons the first one is that it's not like it was when we were kids there's no built-in structure like school and everyone's lives are more complicated as adults you may not have hobbies that you consistently practice or have time for and you also are just more self-conscious as an adult i would say generally than you are as a kid.
Cassidy Horton: I also think that this is the second reason that it's hard to be the one always initiating. And the Facebook post we referenced in the beginning kind of sparked this conversation because it was someone who was always being the planner in her friend group and never getting invites in return. And that can really hurt sometimes. And I will say in my experience, like, I was the friend for years who I felt like all of my friends had to initiate our friendships and kind of be the glue that kept us together. Like, they were the ones texting me first. They were the ones reaching out. They were the ones planning things for us to do.
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And it's taken years for me to work out of that and I'm just now to the point where I'm like I feel like I'm getting better about this thing and I want to continue to get better about it but even as it was happening I felt guilty for like making my friends do all the work in our friendship essentially but yeah that that's another reason why making friends can be so hard.
Emily Batdorf: Definitely. Another reason is the fear of rejection can be really paralyzing. It doesn't feel as simple as just reaching out to someone if you feel self-conscious or anxious about whether people even want to be your friend. So Cassidy, your tip that you got from that article about just assuming people like you. I think is a really helpful perspective.
Cassidy Horton: Yeah, I agree. And then the fourth tip is like, I think a lot of times social media can trick us into thinking that we have a community or even that other people have this really big community. So there's no way that they have space for you too. But the truth is like passive interactions like likes and comments, those don't replace real supportive friendships. And social media is just one tiny piece of a puzzle that is someone's life. And a lot of times like they may be just as hungry for friendships as you are, even if it doesn't appear like it based on their social media profile.
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Emily Batdorf: Yeah, so in short, if you also find making friends hard as an adult, there are a lot of reasons why, and you're not alone. But we definitely wanted to talk about the link between friendships and finances, and we will later get into some tips on how to make friends, so that's coming, but yeah because we are a finance show we wanted to talk about this link because i think it can often be overlooked and one kind of interesting point is that financial success isn't just about what you know it's also in a way about who you surround yourself with so for example if you hang out with people who have no financial goals, you might feel weird if you have financial goals. If you are around people who are constantly upgrading their lifestyle, you might feel pressure to keep up. And if you're hanging out with people who are constantly setting or reaching new goals, you might start to believe that bigger things are also possible for you. And I know, Cassidy, you and I have both found this last one to be true.
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Cassidy Horton: Yeah, especially in my freelance business. I amount so much of my success as a freelancer to the friendships that I've made specifically on like these business trips that we've talked about because a lot of your friendships are strengthened and forged in person, right? Like when you're actually together. But I feel like as a business owner, first of all, I was I was the first business owner, entrepreneur, freelancer, whatever you want to call me that I knew in my personal life. So I felt like I had such a small and limiting view about what I could charge as someone who works for herself, what boundaries I needed to set, like how available I should be for my clients, what types of job opportunities I could chase. Like I had such a narrow view about all of those things. And it wasn't until I started becoming friends with other freelancers that my view of what was possible for myself and my business began to expand. And I know like with 100% certainty that I would not be where I am today as a business owner and a freelancer if it hadn't been for making close friends in this industry.
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Emily Batdorf: Yeah I totally agree I like to say that i borrowed a lot of confidence from people who had already had success doing what i wanted to do and like you were an example of that and it just makes so much so much difference having a community to cheer you on help you reach goals even and even like set goals that are maybe bigger than you would have thought of on your own so that's a huge factor too.
Cassidy Horton: Yeah so in that same vein like right now we're talking a lot about making friendships through business but we can't ignore the fact that a lot of times like you and i have to pay money to go on these business retreats like you're paying for a hotel you're paying for access to a community you're paying for a ticket to go to these events and that does beg the question of like, when is it worth it to pay to access a community even outside of the business world, like just in your personal life? Because sometimes it can feel frustrating or prohibitive to be like, I need to spend money to access a certain community and to make friends, like all of that kind of stuff. So do you want to share some examples of when you found it to be worth it?
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Emily Batdorf: Yeah, for sure. So definitely what you already mentioned, like business retreats, and even like online communities related to business. We've both paid to attend events and to fly across the country to get there. And I think in pretty much every case, ended up building really strong friendships that have added so much to both our personal and professional lives and it's hard to quantify but like likely had financial payoff as well.
Cassidy Horton: Yeah for sure and then i know even in our personal lives you and i have begun to pay for access to certain communities so for example i mentioned in previous episodes that i recently joined pure bar which is like a workout form of exercise class with the direct benefit of feeling stronger and all of that stuff, but also for the indirect benefit of just being in a space where I can strike up a conversation with the person sitting next to me and potentially make friends and things like that. I have also been trying to go to like silent book clubs in my area. I actually just went to one yesterday, met some lovely people who I'm very excited to see again at future meetups. And then I also recently signed up for like a random pottery class with seven other gals. And we're actually meeting up tomorrow to glaze the pottery that we threw together like three weeks ago. So all of these in my mind like the cost was justified because it's creating this space where I have the potential to make real friendships beyond just like doing an activity together. So that's really important to me. And then I know you've also had some experience doing this in your local community as well.
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Emily Batdorf: Yeah, so I've paid for like sewing classes, running groups, where I get like an actual running plan to help me train for an event, but it comes with the benefit of like a community to run with. I do a book club, and while that's actually free, I like do pay to like get a drink when we meet up at the bar. And yeah, last year I kind of made the conscious decision, because in the past I had kind of been wary of spending money on these kinds of things because it felt frivolous. But last year I made the conscious decision to be okay spending money on just anything I kind of deemed as a connection. So this is when I started joining those classes, going to events, joining the book club, the running group. And I made all those things a priority. And my husband and I also really prioritized traveling to see long distance friends and hosting long distance friends when we could. And so I feel like last year was kind of the first year I was intentionally thinking about spending money on community as something that was really worth it to me.
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Cassidy Horton: Yeah, I really admire that you decided that that was a value that's really important to you, having a community, and then you were like, I'm going to prioritize spending money on this value. It's really beautiful. Because I think the reality is, just to kind of button up this part, is that spending money on community can have a financial ROI, whether it's through business connections like Emily and I have talked about, or career opportunities, or even just mental health benefits that make you feel better in other areas of your life. The payoffs can be huge.
Emily Batdorf: Totally. So I think that brings us to maybe the meat and potatoes of the episode, which is if you're struggling to make friends, where the heck do you even start?
Cassidy Horton: For sure. I think the first step for me, or at least in my case, was to do some mindset work. Because if the thought of putting yourself out there feels terrifying, you may need to focus on your why first. And for me, doing that internal work looked like starting therapy. So I was curious about why I felt so shy and reserved and unwilling to open up to people, reading books on how to make friends i gleaned a lot of nuggets of wisdom also podcast episodes like the mel robbins one that we have linked below but even just like doing the internal work before you put yourself out there can really make your efforts go that much further because as we mentioned earlier like even just the mindset shift of assuming that people like you versus assuming they're going to reject you like even that little mindset shift can help you open up and be warmer and put yourself out there like so much more than you probably would have otherwise.
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Emily Batdorf: Yeah personally i know i've totally skipped that whole step like when we were sharing our stories earlier i was thinking how you had so much self-awareness to be like you know, I think I need to go inward first before I'm like ready to put myself out there. That thought never crossed my mind. So I'm glad you brought that up. I think it probably is really helpful for a lot of people. But step two is finding low risk ways to meet people. And you and I both like to take the interest first approach, which is instead of looking for friends, look for activities where you could naturally meet people. So we've done this in the activities that we've already mentioned with bar and yoga, running group, book club, those kinds of things, because they also require you to show up consistently and allow you to kind of like rack up a lot of interactions and be around the same people regularly. So just like that study you mentioned earlier about the number of hours it takes to become friends with someone, just having those regular meetups based on things you're already doing is a really good way to do that. And I was also thinking that volunteering on like a regular basis could be a really good way to do that as well.
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Because if someone else is volunteering, you probably share some of the same values or interests. So that's definitely something I have started to look into in my own community.
Cassidy Horton: I love that. We do have a third step, but just to recap, step number one, do some mindset work. If you feel like, you know, internally you maybe have some things to work through. Step number two, look for low risk ways to meet people. And then Emily and I have mainly taken the let's join some groups for hobbies and things that we enjoy, but then the third step is once you actually meet someone you need to follow through and nurture that friendship and we have both found that there are like really small ways that you can do this so for example one thing that i always love to do is send a follow-up text after i hang out with someone for example i met someone in bar in the bar class every single time I say bar, I'm self-conscious that someone's been talking about the bar. Well, that's okay, too. Yeah, it's fine, too. You can also make friends in the bar. But yeah, after we had coffee, I sent a follow-up text. That was really fun. We should do it again sometime.
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And that leads me to my next point. Instead of just saying, we should do it again sometime, actually going ahead and getting something else on the books. And this could be as subtle as being like that was really great if you want to hang out again next week i'm available this day this day we could grab another coffee or if you wanted to i don't know go for a walk around this park or fill in the blank check out this really cool museum down the street i'd love to do that too like whatever works it can be however low stakes as you want it to be good to see it like it can be as simple as that. Another tip is making an effort before you need something and this tip really comes back from the original facebook post because that person felt like she was initiating and like her friends would only reach out to her if they needed a recommendation for a contractor or a recommendation for something else and then that would be like the only time she would hear from them so just remembering to nurture that friendship beyond like what can this person give me you know. And then another one is just offering to help. Offer to dog sit if they have a dog. Offer to babysit. Offer to drive them to the airport. Offer to pick them up from the auto shop while their car is getting worked on.
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I've done that with a local friend several times. You know, I've been like, my car is getting an oil change for two hours. Like, do you want to pick me up and we can, like go for a walk or go grab brunch or something like that and then another thing is just making it clear that you would love to hang out with them even if it's just at each other's houses even if you're just watching tv or they're folding laundry or they're decluttering the garage like whatever it doesn't need to be this big activity and emily i know you have a cool story about this so go ahead
Emily Batdorf: Oh, yeah. My friend Grace and I, I think are really good at doing this. We have not lived in the same city since college. And so when we're like visiting each other, it's fun to just be a part of each other's everyday lives. So like we'll just one of us will join the other one going grocery shopping or like running errands around town. And we're totally fine with that. As long as we're like together, we are so happy to just kind of show up and be there for the daily things.
Cassidy Horton: That's how I feel whenever I'm visiting any of my friends that live out of state. I tell them repeatedly and I genuinely mean it. Like I want to see every glimpse of your everyday routine. Like show me the post office you go to. Show me the grocery store you go to. Show me the gym you work out at. Take me to your favorite restaurant because whenever I'm back home and you're telling me like I had to run errands today, I want to be able to visualize exactly where you went to.
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Emily Batdorf: That's so funny you say that because when this friend I was talking about for a few years she lived in Virginia and I lived in Wyoming so we were very far apart but we talked on the phone all the time and when I went to visit her she she took me on the walk that she would always go on while she talked to me on the phone which was like so funny she was so excited to take me on that walk.
Cassidy Horton: Were you excited to go?
Emily Batdorf: Oh, of course. Yeah. And it's like every time you talk to her again, you can visualize.
Cassidy Horton: Yeah. Love it.
Emily Batdorf: Okay. So in closing, building community is an investment, but it's one that we both think is worth it. Friendships don't happen overnight and they usually don't happen organically like we think they do or like they used to do when we were kids, but they're worth the effort. The right community can even help you reach your financial goals, can help you feel supported and improve your overall well-being. And as we said at the beginning of this episode, if you've been struggling to find friends, you're definitely not alone and it's not your fault. In a way, making friends is just a numbers game and you've got to put yourself out there and put in the hours with someone for a meaningful connection to form. And hopefully this episode gave you some ideas on how to get started.
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Cassidy Horton: Yeah, and beyond this episode, like I said, we do have a lot of resources linked in the show notes. So we have the Mel Robbins podcast episode. Mel Robbins also has a book that she mentions in the podcast episode called The Let Them Theory. Emily just got this book a few days ago or a week ago, and she's about to start reading it. I'm also going to go get a copy, so if you want a little follow-up on community, maybe that can be something we discuss in a future episode. But then also the book that I read in 2022, it's called We Should Get Together by Kat Vellis. And then also that article that I've referenced with the tip on Assume That People Like You. That author was also a guest on Glennon Doyle's podcast, We Can Do Hard Things. So we have that podcast episode linked below as well. But beyond that, we would love to know what's been your experience with making friends as an adult. Have you found something that works? Have you also struggled with this? Please let us know. You can email us at any time at hello at the finance girlies.
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And then next week we have something exciting that we're going to talk about. And that is taxes. We are not tax pros by any stretch of the imagination, but it is tax season. So we wanted to share our experience with how we filed taxes over the years, maybe give some tips and things that we've learned along the way to help you, or at least give you some good questions that you can ask your tax pro. So don't miss that next week.
Emily Batdorf: See you then.
